Surviving and Thriving After Domestic Violence: A Conversation with Lianne Torres Ep. 179

What happens when the world stands still, yet your personal life spirals into chaos? This gripping episode features Lianne Torres, a resilient podcaster, speaker, and survivor of domestic violence, who bravely opens up about navigating abuse during the unprecedented COVID-19 lockdowns. Leanne's story is one of intense transformation, illustrating how the mind's landscape can be as treacherous as the physical world. Her relationship, which began in April 2020, masked itself as ideal until it unveiled layers of emotional, verbal, and mental abuse, alongside infidelity and manipulation. Through sharing her painful experiences, Leanne has become a beacon of hope and resilience, using her podcast "Watch Us Thrive" to empower others.

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Takeaways

• Facing trauma and taking accountability are crucial steps in the healing process.
• Self-discovery and self-love are essential for building a healthy relationship with oneself.
• Dating oneself and focusing on personal growth before entering a new relationship can lead to healthier connections.
• Sharing stories of hope and survival can inspire others and create a supportive community.
• It is important to recognize and address different forms of abuse beyond physical violence.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Survivor's Story of Domestic Violence
• 11:39 Healing and Accountability After Abuse
• 16:01 Empowering Self Through Healing and Growth
• 23:18 Self-Love Journey After Trauma

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Hi, this is Lisa with Ella Go. Before we begin today's episode, I want to take a moment to provide a content warning. This episode will discuss topics related to domestic violence, including emotional, physical and psychological abuse. These subjects can be distressing or triggering for some listeners. If you or someone you know is currently experiencing domestic violence, please know that help is available. We'll include resources and hotlines in the episode notes. If, at any point, you feel the need to pause or step away from the episode, please do so. Your well-being comes first. Thank you for listening. Welcome to Ella Go. My name is Lisa. Join me on the journey in having real, raw and uncomfortable discussions about fitness, health and everything in between, because, let's be honest, this journey would suck if we don't get our shit together. Welcome back everyone. My name is Lisa, your host, and today I have Leanne. Leanne, thank you for coming.

Speaker 2: 1:20

Thank you so much for having me and super excited to be here.

Speaker 1: 1:22

Girl, I checked out your Instagram and I'm loving everything that you're doing, and especially, you know, things that you're doing for the single mom. But before we get into all that, why don't you introduce yourself to the audience, the listeners, so they know who you are?

Speaker 2: 1:38

Yes, Thank you so much again for having me. Hi everyone, my name is Leanne Torres and I'm a podcaster, I'm a speaker and I'm an advocate and survivor for domestic violence. That's really. You know, my purpose was born in the most darkest moment of my life, going through what I went through. I was in an abusive relationship during the pandemic that almost took my life and ever since that happened, a little over three years ago, I've really just committed to sharing stories of hope, of survival, of turning your pain into your power, and my podcast it's called Watch Us Thrive and it's all about having stories of people who have gone through some really difficult things in their life, but what they've been able to do with it afterwards. So that's really what I'm here. I always say I'm trying to change the world, one conversation at a time. So yeah, it's a little bit about me.

Speaker 1: 2:46

I like it. Okay, so let's talk a little bit about your background. You mentioned that the pandemic and if you know, I can remember when COVID happened, like people didn't realize women that were in abusive relationships now they had to be with this person 24 seven and I remember they were even doing this Women were doing like a symbol with their hands if they were in a abusive relationship and they needed help. Yes, and it was like you don't realize that this is a thing. Now you're stuck in this house with this individual. So tell us a little bit about that and how you got through it. But tell us, like when the pandemic happened, like so I'm guessing this, this, this abuse, was already happening prior to the pandemic.

Speaker 2: 3:41

No, actually no, and I'm glad that you brought that up, the word how I got through it, because that's literally what it needs to be like when you're trying to heal from whatever trauma it is that you've gone through. You have to go through it. You can't just sweep it under the rug, you can't just pretend like it's not there, because it's going to follow you everywhere that you go, until you're ready to face your own inner demons, if you will right. So for me, I mean, when I met my ex, it was the end of April 2020. And I was living in Florida at the time and Florida, for whatever reason, the pandemic, it didn't matter. People were still outside, we were still doing things. But when I met him, I met him off of a dating app and at first, it was the most beautiful relationship that I ever found myself in.

Speaker 2: 4:33

I had a history of being in really toxic relationships before and I thought when I met my ex this is three for three. I found the one, it's finally my turn, and it definitely felt like that in the beginning. However, you know, we're talking about the pandemic and we were all wearing masks. He could only pretend to be someone that he wasn't. He could only wear his own mask for so long until the real person who he was came to the forefront. And I share that part of my story a lot because when it comes to being in these abusive relationships, that is a thread that I have seen time and time again when I've interviewed other survivors of domestic violence and just being in really toxic relationships it's like the perpetrator who's abusing the person. They all have this similar way of doing things. It's a very trendy word nowadays, but the narcissist narcissism a lot of these people follow that pattern of putting their best foot forward. Love bombing you is something that's very trendy nowadays too, but that's something that I experienced.

Speaker 2: 5:51

It was such a beautiful relationship in the beginning until it wasn't, and the abuse that I went through wasn't just physical, and I know that a lot of us, when we think about domestic violence, we only think about one type of abuse, which is someone putting their hands on you. While that is a huge part of it, there's so many different types of abuse that I experience Verbal, emotional, mental infidelity. He cheated on me throughout the entire relationship. You know lying, manipulating, all of these things that we just think it's just something that we deal with in these types of relationships, but it is abuse and I like to point that out too, because there's so many different forms of what we go through. But the physical abuse didn't happen until the last month and a half of our relationship. We were only together for 10 months. I met him April 2020, and I left that relationship well, really escaped from that relationship March of 2021.

Speaker 2: 6:52

So it was a very fast-paced relationship. It was very much a. You know, I went through so much during that time but I didn't realize that going through what I went through truly changed my life in the best way possible. I can say that now, and if you hear my story on my podcast, it's episode 12. If you guys want to hear the full, in-depth story of being in that relationship, but if you hear of what I went through, especially the night that he almost killed me, you would think like you're grateful for that and, being the woman that I went through, especially the night that he almost killed me, you would think like you're grateful for that and being the woman that I am now doing what I'm doing, if it wasn't for that experience, I wouldn't be here, I wouldn't be sitting down and having this conversation with you. So for that I'm absolutely grateful for.

Speaker 1: 7:39

So, without getting too deep in the details, because I do want them to listen to your episode that evening, or that night that he almost tried to kill you, were you able to escape, or someone heard it, or how did?

Speaker 2: 7:52

it was wild. Anytime I think about it like I just it sounds like a movie what I went through. It's stuff that you see on tv, but this is like my real life experience. So you know, after dealing with a lot of ugly things throughout that night again, you guys can check out the episode if you want to hear it in full detail.

Speaker 2: 8:15

I don't know if it was God. I believe in God, I believe in a higher power whether it was my intuition. Something told me in that moment if you don't leave this apartment now, you're not going to make it out alive. And I found the opportunity for me. Once he had his back turned, I literally grabbed my car keys, grabbed his set of car keys, my car and I ran out of my apartment. And I ran out of my apartment. I was half naked. I was wearing a robe, I had no socks on, no underwear on, my phone was lost, my purse was lost, my wallet, I had nothing but me. And I went to my car, turned on the ignition, locked the door, put it in reverse and when I looked over my shoulder, he was literally right here on the other side of the window it in reverse.

Speaker 2: 9:05

And when I looked over my shoulder, he was literally right here on the other side of the window. Yeah, and if I wouldn't have locked my door he would have pulled me out of the car. And that night it was like past midnight, it was the next morning and I went to my best friend's apartment that she lived about 15 minutes away and he didn't know where she lived. So that's why I went specifically to her place, knocking on her door at like two o'clock in the morning. I look like I've been through hell because I was and she opened the door and she saw me and she was like what the fuck? Right and um, and that's the first time that I told someone what I was going through.

Speaker 2: 9:44

Before that, nobody knew. They knew that I was in a relationship with this person, but they didn't know what I was going through. They didn't know it was abusive or he was cheating on me. Like that night was the first time that I spoke up and I told someone and it's because of her. Shout out to Giovanna. Anytime I can shout her out, I will. She's the reason why I called 911. And you know, later down the line he is in prison for what happened that night. But yeah, that was my whole situation of literally listening to that voice telling you to get the fuck out. And I listened and that's why I'm here. Oh my God, yeah it's very dramatic.

Speaker 1: 10:21

Before that evening happened and I'm sure well, I don't know where were other things happening prior to that evening. Did you get the? Is he? Is he toxic? Is this not right like? Did you get the? Did you get those voices did?

Speaker 2: 10:41

I ignore the red flags. Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely. But, like I said in the beginning, I had a history of being in just really shitty relationships, not so much to the point that it was physically abusive, even though I was in a long-term relationship that we were both abusive to each other. But at that time I didn't really identify with, like I'm, a victim of domestic violence. I was very naive to that whole world. I knew nothing about it, didn't see that growing up, didn't hang out around people who went through that. So I was very naive.

Speaker 2: 11:18

But I was used to dealing with just bullshit. I was used to dealing with disrespect, calling each other names, you know, cheating, lying, all of the things. So, you know, when I found kind of the same patterns in this relationship, I was just like well, it is what it is. I've dealt with this before. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 11:39

And I think so many of us, especially women, like we're so used to the bullshit that we've gone through throughout our entire like adult lives that when we find ourselves in these situations again, it's just like oh well, it is what it is. But when I got to the point that, like this man started choking me, that was something that I never dealt with before, like that's that when it was like oh shit, this is different, like this is dangerous, right, and fortunately, or unfortunately it took for me to have what I like to call my come to Jesus moment when that night happened and finally get away from him and finally start healing from that. But yeah, I was the type of girl when you know, in relationships, very codependent, hated being alone, you know no self-worth, no self-trust, like I hated myself, honestly, and I would rather deal with someone who treated me like shit than to be by myself because I didn't know who I was outside of any type of relationship, than to be by myself because I didn't know who I was outside of any type of relationship. So, yeah, I definitely ignored a lot of red flags, but look at me now.

Speaker 1: 12:52

I've learned a lot, so I'm grateful for the bad that's happened because it's created a woman who will never tolerate what I went through before again. Yes, absolutely. So let's talk about that woman. So you now we're talking about you're out of that situation. What were some of the first steps that you took to start the healing process?

Speaker 2: 13:17

Oh man, it has been a journey, and it's a journey I say this all the time that I will be on for the rest of my life, because going through what I went through like that's not just something that you're just going to get over, right. But my first step was saying it out loud. When I told my best friend, this is what's happening. That was the start of my healing, without me even knowing I was living in Florida. Like I said, shout out to my sister. She booked me a one-way ticket back home to where I'm at now. I lost my apartment, I lost my car, I got fired from my job, my unemployment ran out. I literally lost everything. But that was my opportunity to really start to rebuild. Right, and what that looked like for me was going to therapy group and individual therapy, working with life coaches, and the most important step that I identify with is taking accountability, and I know when people hear that it's like taking accountability. What does that mean?

Speaker 2: 14:27

And what I had to realize and what really has changed my life was that, like I said before, I was in really shitty situations time and time again realized the common denominator in every single one of these relationships is this girl right here, and when I had that epiphany, if you will, that was like, well damn, I got some shit to work on, because this is a pattern that I'm repeating over and over and over and every single time it's getting a little bit worse and I'm tired of feeling like stuck on this hamster wheel, this cycle of like not just existing right, not really getting anywhere in life and just finding myself in these really shitty situations.

Speaker 2: 15:17

I had to look in the mirror and be like what is it about me that I have to work on that awareness that I've been able to build that accountability that, like what he did, that's his business. I will never take responsibility for what he chose to do to me, but what I do take responsibility over is why I decided to stay, why I felt like this type of behavior was acceptable, why I didn't love myself and that's how I've been able and I still am why I didn't love myself and that's how I've been able and I still am building the relationship that I have with myself. But it really took for me to lose everything in order to build it back up. It's kind of like, you know, the phoenix rising from the ashes. That's really the journey that I've been on since 2021.

Speaker 1: 16:01

As you were talking and I'm listening to your story and the healing journey you have a lot of people who go through a lot of traumatic experiences and there's no learning from those experiences and it's like a cycle over over, but this is how you get through the healing. Is that you said I'm going to be doing this for the rest of my life, Right? Yes, 1000%.

Speaker 2: 16:28

That is huge, yep. And let me just say, had you would have asked me this three, four or five years ago, I would have that. Oh, it's because of him. Like I was the fucking mayor of victim land, right. Like I never knew what the word accountability meant, like everyone else was the problem and I, like everything was happening to me.

Speaker 2: 16:54

So I get that right not to judge, but it's like sometimes you need that reality check. Sometimes you need to wake the fuck up and realize, okay, okay, this is my pattern, this is what's going on. What are we going to do to change it? Or are we going to just go down the same path? What's the definition of insanity? Repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? That was me. That was me and I got sick and tired of my own shit, and I think that is so powerful. But that's a journey that it looks very different for everyone and your timeline is different.

Speaker 2: 17:33

But when you reach the point that, like I'm fucking done with this, that is when the change is going to happen. But the only person who can make that happen is you. It's not him, it's not her, it's not your family, it's not your bestie, it's not your coworkers, it's not your fucking dog, right Like, it's you. You have to get to the point that's like no more. I am unwilling to continue this bullshit, so what am I going to do about it? And sometimes that means cutting people off, ending shitty relationships. You know, not being best friends with your toxic person that you've known for 20 something years, and every time you guys get together, y'all are just gasping over the same bullshit over and over, like if you really want to grow and thrive and change, that means you got to like cut your losses and start doing some things differently. But the only person who's going to make that happen is you. And that's just the truth.

Speaker 1: 18:29

Period Point blank, man, that's so good. That is so good Somebody needs to hear that.

Speaker 1: 18:35

That's really the damn truth. You know you want to. It hurts, it's not. It's not an easy path and you know you do have to lose people to gain that strength and if they're not helping you grow like you hit it on the nail. It's not even just men, it's women who are in your relationships. You know, if they're not there to be your cheerleader, to build you up, help you, and just bringing you down and bring you on a level that's just not of growth, why have them around? No hate on you, but you're holding me back. So I love everything that you just said, leanne. So let's talk about you're going through this journey, so where are you now with all this?

Speaker 2: 19:27

Oh man, you know it's interesting because recently I found out that my ex is actually getting out of prison this year, actually in a couple of months. We're recording this in June and he's getting out in August. I was diagnosed with PTSD and I still do deal with that. A lot of survivors of abuse do deal with post-traumatic stress and you know there are moments that I find that I cannot get myself out of bed because my mental health is in fucking shambles, right. But, and especially when I heard that like I went through a really long state of depression for like the past four months just because life was lifing, and then that on top of it was like, oh my God, like for the past three and a half years I knew where he was, I knew he couldn't find me, even though I'm very far away from where he is now. But there's always those thoughts of like what if? What's going to happen when he gets out. But now I've really been focusing on just continuing to build the relationship that Leanne has with herself.

Speaker 2: 20:37

I went back into therapy for a little while because dealing with this new part of my journey was a lot for my mental health and I needed support and instead of doing what I'm used to doing, which is shutting down, pretending like the problem is not there, not wanting to deal with it. I was like you know what? I have to talk to someone about this. So I went to therapy group an individual that really helped me a lot, and one thing that my therapist told me that really has changed my trajectory is like coming back home, and that means like coming back to the relationship that I have with myself, like that is the one that I had neglected for so long, pretty much for like since I was a teenager, right, and it's still a struggle to be on that journey, but I'm so committed to committed to just focusing and pouring in so much to me and not allowing the things that I cannot control consume me. Right, because, at the end of the day, the only person that I can control is myself. I can't control what he's going to do when he gets out. I can't control someone cutting me off in the streets and they're flipping me off and doing all this ugly shit. The only thing that I can control is how I'm going to react to the situation, and how I'm able to do that is to really get to know me on such a deep personal level focus on myself.

Speaker 2: 22:06

Honestly, working out has been so therapeutic. Going to the gym and lifting up heavy shit makes me feel like the baddest bitch in the world and I don't think enough of us realize how healing moving your body can be. But like, honestly, just focusing on me, and when I do have those dark moments, I don't stay there for as long as I used to. I allow myself to grieve, I allow myself to grieve, I allow myself to feel angry, I allow myself to cry. But we can't stay in that darkness and despair for too long because someone with mental health issues like depression, anxiety, ptsd it gets really dark in here really quickly and I had to actively push myself out of it and be like, no, we're not going to go down this rabbit hole once again, because we know where it can take you. We're going to do something different and that's what I've been doing.

Speaker 1: 23:02

Wow, that's profound, because you are putting the energy instead of putting the energy out there, which I personally think. When you do that, it's feeding that and you're putting it into yourself and making yourself stronger and you're empowering yourself. So are you like how do you see dating again? Are you in a relationship Like, how does that work? What's going on?

Speaker 2: 23:28

That is non-existent. So I have been single, celibate, not dating, not dealing with men at all since that relationship in 2021. And in the beginning it was due to fear. It was due to not even wanting to try to put myself back in a situation that what if I meet someone like him again? And I actually heard this quote the other day online from someone that I follow.

Speaker 2: 23:59

Shout out to the Empowered Millennials podcast Angela. She put up this Instagram live that she went to a comedy show recently and she heard the person talking about. You know he was talking about he was out of a long-term relationship and getting back into the dating world and kind of being hesitant about it. But he said something along the lines of like, if you already learned the lesson, you're not going to repeat it. And when I heard that because again, like I wasn't putting myself out there because there was a fear of what if I do find someone like him. When I heard that because again, like I wasn't putting myself out there because there was a fear of what if I do find someone like him. When I heard that that was such like a breakthrough for me because I know I'm not the same person who attracted that man in 2020. So I've done enough work and I'm still doing the work because, like I said, this is a never ending journey of me loving myself, trusting myself, building my confidence, doing all the things to love on me, that, when I do decide to put myself back out there, I'm not going to be the same person that I used to be, and I think that's so beautiful.

Speaker 2: 25:04

But right now, like, I'm so focused on myself that I don't even want the distraction to, like you know, go out dating and ask them what the fuck their favorite color is and what's your family trauma and what do you bring to the table and all this shit. Like I don't have the energy for that right now. Because right now, I'm dating myself and I'm loving myself and I'm working on. I want to be the best version for myself. Working on, I want to be the best version for myself. I want my cup to be overflowing, that I'm able to attract exactly what it is.

Speaker 2: 25:41

I'm not looking for it. It's going to come to me when it's ready, but right now, we're like in the cooking process. We're, like you know, putting the things together before it goes into the oven. Like that's the journey that I'm on right now that I'm so committed and focusing on, and I'm loving it. Like dating myself is something I've never done before and I just love the opportunity to really get to know who is Leanne outside of a relationship. I never knew who she was and I'm so excited to be on this journey of like finding out what I like, what I don't like, what I'm attracted to, what I'm not like. That's, that's the fun journey that I'm on right now Dating yourself.

Speaker 1: 26:16

I think every woman should do that for an ample amount of time.

Speaker 2: 26:22

So you know, I will say this.

Speaker 1: 26:26

You said that I'm not the same woman and and this is for everybody that's listening to this because even if you healed and I've interviewed a couple of women who've been through some shit and they healed and then they found themselves dating someone similar, but then they said, but even though it was just as toxic, I left, or I didn't wait until a month later or six months later or a year later.

Speaker 1: 26:55

So you know, for those women out there, give yourself some grace, like you, give yourself some slack here, because if you let's say, you know, back then you were like, oh yeah, I would have never seen the signs and I waited like two years later. But you know, hey, this guy was saying shit to me and I cut it off at six months. Yay, you, you know, I mean, you're not the same woman. And I really believe every experience that you have is going to continually change you. Well, that's what I believe, because you know it'll change you to where you can finally be like, okay, red flag ain't fucking going over to his house Red flag ain't fucking dating him for more than a month, you know.

Speaker 1: 27:39

But you know I could certainly say for me I've been through those situations where I'm like again, what the fuck right? And then it's like, okay, back to therapy and also. But then I would say you, you know what, lisa, you stood up for yourself. Even though he was saying stupid shit to you. You still said excuse me, why are you saying that to me? Would you have said that with the last person? No, you wouldn't. You were too scared to say shit. So giving yourself some credit that, yes, you are growing and there's toxic people every fucking where, okay, Everywhere, everywhere, and that's the thing.

Speaker 2: 28:21

Like I said before, the only person that you can control is you. So you may find a really shitty person, but how are you going to react in this situation? Are you going to ignore the red flags like you did in the last three relationships? Are you going to be like, no, I have a new standard that I have set for myself. You cross this boundary and there is no coming back from that. So hopefully this is a learning lesson for you, but I'm going to exit stage left gracefully and be on to the next one, and that comes with the journey, that comes with you going through shit.

Speaker 2: 28:55

I know, when I do put myself back out there, if I see even an orange flag, I'm going to be like, no, we're not doing that. You know what I mean, because I've been able to build the relationship that Leanne has with herself. But I'm taking the time to get there because we're just not in a hurry. Like I'm 35 years old, I got so much more time. I might find, you know, the love of my life in my 50s and my 60s and my 70s, and that's perfectly fine. Like I'm just so focused on me and that's where we're, you know, putting our energy into.

Speaker 1: 29:26

So let's talk about the podcast now. How did this all happen?

Speaker 2: 29:35

Oh man, my baby, my baby. So it was born on January 1st 2022. And it started from, actually, when I was going to college and I was in a digital marketing program. I'm a very artistic person, if you guys can see in the background like this is original artwork that I created and it was a end of the semester project with Professor Ron. Shout out to him and for the very last project that we were going to do, you could present anything, anything, anything that you wanted, and before even going to college, after doing a lot of healing from this relationship, I used my art as a form of expression and I painted this 24 by 36 inch canvas of my story of domestic violence and I presented it as my end of the year project in that class and that was the first time that I told strangers what I went through, like I was in therapy before and a lot of my close people in my life knew about my situation, but that was the first time that I went public and I told people what I went through. The feedback that I got at the end of that class was what ignited me to put my story out there in public. I mean, there was people at the end of the class that came up to me and they were like, oh my god, me too like they were crying looking at my painting. And when I saw that, I was like there's something here like there. It was so beautiful to witness and I got an A on my project, so I'm very proud of that too.

Speaker 2: 31:17

But going through that and letting go of the fear of talking about it publicly, that's what really ignited me to start a podcast, and I work as an assistant to my sister, who has a very successful podcast. I was learning a lot of the behind the scenes stuff when it comes to putting a podcast together and all the things that we go through and doing that stuff for her. I realized I'm going to start a podcast and I'm going to talk about the shit that I've gone through and I'm going to call it Watch Us Thrive. And that's how it started. And now I think I just released my 141st episode. Well, actually, tomorrow my 141st episode.

Speaker 2: 32:01

Yeah, I've been super consistent with that, right? So, yeah, I mean now I've just created so many amazing you know opportunities for people to come on to share their own story. I've interviewed so many survivors of trauma, of abuse, of so many things. We all got shit that we're going through. We all have things that we're trying to heal from, and I'm creating this community where we can all come together as a collective and share our stories and help others feel seen and heard and understood and just be able to show that, despite what I've gone through, despite what you've gone through, look at us now and let that inspire and motivate you to know that you can change the trajectory of your life. You don't need to allow the ugly shit that you've gone through be the be-all, end-all. It doesn't need to stop there. Like you can create something so beautiful from the pain that you've gone through and that's what we're doing with my podcast.

Speaker 1: 32:57

My god, I don't have any other questions. I mean, that is pretty. You know I I love the title. You know, watch us. You know we're all in this together and it's not. You know, watch us. You know we're all in this together and it's not, you know, just me or you or whatever, Um, and I love that you still are. I could see why people feel comfortable coming onto your podcast and telling the story because you've been something, you've gone through something similar, and it doesn't come from the oh, look at me, I healed and now let's no, we're all healing together. Um, I love that whole concept, Leanne. I think what you're doing is what's needed, um, for women to have a place to voice their I mean their story, and the fact that you showed that, um, that painting, and you had women that came up and said me too.

Speaker 2: 33:56

Yeah, damn, that was just like damn.

Speaker 1: 33:59

All right, we got something here, thank you.

Speaker 2: 34:01

Thank you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1: 34:03

So, um, I just want to thank you so much for being a part of this, but where can we find you and where can we find your podcast?

Speaker 2: 34:11

Yes, thank you again so much. Anytime I'm able to share my story, I know it's healing someone, but it is so healing for me, like that is the purpose behind it, right? I hope it just reaches one person who can see a little bit of themselves in me and it inspire you to know that, like you got this, you can thrive as well. We are all in this together, right? So thank you so much for having me. You can follow me on Instagram that's where I live. Watch Us Thrive Podcast is the handle. I'm also on YouTube where I release all of my video episodes of the podcast under the same handle, and my website has everything my blog, my episodes. You know my newsletter that you guys can sign up for. It's WUTpodcastcom and again, but we need it in the spaces where it's needed. So please leave a rating and review and, yeah, stay tuned because I got a lot more stuff coming. Every Tuesday, new episode drops, okay?

Speaker 1: 35:21

Leanne, this has been such a great conversation. I enjoyed talking to you. I loved all the man. You dropped some major nuggets through this whole entire you know episode and, like you know, leanne said if you want to reach out to her, you know where to reach out to her. She's got her podcast and we'll have all of that in the show notes. So again, leanne, thank you so much for being part of this. Thank you and until next time. Bye, time, bye.